Traps & Ebon Battle Standard of Honour - Guild Wars Forums

Laylat · Oct 22, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28

Guess I could try it out, but I'd like to get a little feedback before I do.

Will activating traps within the ward add damage to the traps laid? If so, do they affect the traps damage output only while active?

Examples:
1)
Cast Ebon Battle Standard of Honour
Lay trap(s)
Lure foe into trap before ward closes

2)
Cast EBSH
Lay trap(s)
Lure foe into trap after ward closes

3)
Lay trap(s)
Cast EBSH
Lure foe into trap after ward closes

Thank you.

kratimas · Oct 22, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

I think it is 4.

Lay trap(s)
Cast EBSH
Lure foe into trap before ward closes

If I am not mistaken.

I Will Heal You Ally · Oct 22, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44

yeah that makes sence

AcidDaze · Oct 22, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57

i third that comment

both actions (laying trap and luring) should be done with ward up

the savage nornbear · Oct 22, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07

it doesnt work on all traps. only those that do damage that is affected by armor. so i think dust trap will not work.

TheDragonmaster · Oct 22, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Not sure about the Dust Trap... testing needs to be done... because the damage it deals is armor ignoring, but it is in many ways treated as Earth damage...

MisterB · Oct 22, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by kratimas

I think it is 4.

Lay trap(s)
Cast EBSH
Lure foe into trap before ward closes

If I am not mistaken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

it doesnt work on all traps. only those that do damage that is affected by armor. so i think dust trap will not work.

These posts are what I have observed from testing.

Lay Trap(s)
Cast EBSoH on top of trap(s)
Lure foe into trap before ward ends

Any trap that deals armor-affected damage while the ward is active will have the bonus damage from the ward applied. Note that the traps have to be inside the ward, and activate while it is in effect for the bonus damage, but you do not have to cast the ward while you trap.

Dust Trap does not receive any bonus damage from EBSoH, but Flame Trap will, on each pulse.

On a somewhat related note, "By Ural's Hammer!" also affects traps. Your location with relation to the traps doesn't matter: you only need to activate the shout before the traps activate, and any traps that activate during the shout's duration will be multiplied.

There doesn't seem to be the same restriction to damage from Ural's Hammer; it does multiply the damage from Dust Trap.

edit: You can of course combine Flame Trap, EBSoH, and Ural's Hammer, and all the effects stack. There's a thread discussing experiments similar to this here.

Luminarus · Oct 22, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Itll work solong as the ward is up when the the damage occurs, and the traps are in the ward.

dilan155 · Oct 22, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

pretty much everything misterB said, lay traps, lay ward, lure mob. the damage only affects armor acknowledging damage.

Laylat · Oct 23, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15

Thank you all for your responces. I wanted to be sure before I start grinding for points. Also, thanks for the link, MisterB.

tmakinen · Oct 23, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26

Correction: the relative positions of EBSoH and traps don't matter, in particular it doesn't matter whether the traps are inside the ward when triggered, the only relevant condition is that you must be inside the ward when the traps trigger (tested it as well), just as the description tells. So ...

Lay traps
Lure monsters
Before traps trigger, cast EBSoH
Stay inside EBSoH while traps do their work

MisterB · Oct 23, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmakinen

Correction: the relative positions of EBSoH and traps don't matter, in particular it doesn't matter whether the traps are inside the ward when triggered, the only relevant condition is that you must be inside the ward when the traps trigger (tested it as well), just as the description tells. So ...

Lay traps
Lure monsters
Before traps trigger, cast EBSoH
Stay inside EBSoH while traps do their work

That is quite useful to know, thanks!
I must admit I never would have thought to test that. I just tested your conclusion and you are correct; I was just returning inside the ward after pulling.

Oct 22, 2008, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#1
Laylat Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: E/	Traps & Ebon Battle Standard of Honour Guess I could try it out, but I'd like to get a little feedback before I do. Will activating traps within the ward add damage to the traps laid? If so, do they affect the traps damage output only while active? Examples: 1) Cast Ebon Battle Standard of Honour Lay trap(s) Lure foe into trap before ward closes 2) Cast EBSH Lay trap(s) Lure foe into trap after ward closes 3) Lay trap(s) Cast EBSH Lure foe into trap after ward closes Thank you.

Oct 23, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15	#10
Laylat Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: E/	Thank you all for your responces. I wanted to be sure before I start grinding for points. Also, thanks for the link, MisterB. Last edited by Laylat; Oct 23, 2008 at 05:17 AM // 05:17..

Oct 23, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26	#11
tmakinen Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: www.mybearfriend.net Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: E/	Correction: the relative positions of EBSoH and traps don't matter, in particular it doesn't matter whether the traps are inside the ward when triggered, the only relevant condition is that you must be inside the ward when the traps trigger (tested it as well), just as the description tells. So ... Lay traps Lure monsters Before traps trigger, cast EBSoH Stay inside EBSoH while traps do their work

Oct 22, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57	#2
kratimas Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Order of the Setting Sun Profession: R/	I think it is 4. Lay trap(s) Cast EBSH Lure foe into trap before ward closes If I am not mistaken.

Oct 22, 2008, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#3
I Will Heal You Ally Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In my HoM Guild: Canthan Refugees [TOGO] Profession: E/Rt	yeah that makes sence

Oct 22, 2008, 11:57 AM // 11:57	#4
AcidDaze Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: EKSF Profession: E/Me	i third that comment both actions (laying trap and luring) should be done with ward up

Oct 22, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07	#5
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	it doesnt work on all traps. only those that do damage that is affected by armor. so i think dust trap will not work.

Oct 22, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#6
TheDragonmaster Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2008 Profession: R/	Not sure about the Dust Trap... testing needs to be done... because the damage it deals is armor ignoring, but it is in many ways treated as Earth damage...

Oct 22, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#8
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Itll work solong as the ward is up when the the damage occurs, and the traps are in the ward.

Oct 22, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#9
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	pretty much everything misterB said, lay traps, lay ward, lure mob. the damage only affects armor acknowledging damage.